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Re: [dvd::rip] Quality Issues??

Subject: Re: [dvd::rip] Quality Issues??
From: jonathan pickard <jonathan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 15:00:50 +1300
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Mark Rose wrote:

>With such a harsh and abraisive attitude, I am certain your email will
>be entirely ignored. WHY THE HELL ARE YOU YELLING?
>
>1. That's why many linux distributions have package management. I
>suggest you learn your distribution's package management system and use
>it.
>
>2. How many bug reports have you written? Every bug I have found in
>DVD::RIP has been fixed quickly, especially considering there is just
>one man behind the project. You mentioned many issues with transcode --
>you should take those issues up on the transcode mailing lists.
>
>3. FAQ - FREQUENTLY Asked Questions, not EBQEA - Every Bloody Question
>Ever Asked. Regarding contact: this list is the place. People can answer
>questions here. And it's searchable. See
>http://www.exit1.org/archive/dvdrip-users/
>
>You say you are a developer. Why don't you fix "the damn bugs"? The
>project author has been very willing to accept patches. Instead, I have
>a better idea:
>
>
>
> GO TROLL SOMEWHERE ELSE.
>
>
>
>
>
>On Sat, 2005-11-19 at 03:57 -0600, Benjamin Lewis wrote:
>
>>Greetings, dvdrip users,
>>
>>The purpose of this message is to inform you of my opinion on the
>>current status of dvdrip and it's future development. This is a well
>>thought opionion, formed after months of using the program, trying
>>various settings, waiting hours for the results and finally judging
>>them.
>>
>>Based on what I have seen, I am very impressed with dvdrip and what it
>>is able to accomplish. Based on what I have seen, dvdrip is most
>>likely one of the most versital ripping programs around, however, with
>>that said, I do have some constructive critisism which I feel needs to
>>be said. Before I continue though, there are a few things I want to
>>say, so I will just get into them.
>>
>>1. As a software developer, I understand that sometimes users can be
>>very naive. As a computer user, I also understand that sometimes it's
>>the developer who is naive. One of the first problems I encountered
>>while attempting to install dvdrip was the enourmous number of
>>dependencies which need to be installed. I attempted to install
>>dvdrip onto both Mandrake and Fedora 4. On both pc's, with normal
>>installations, it took around 6 hours to get dvdrip to run. That
>>speaks for itself, but on top of that, the program didn't work
>>correctly even after it was installed correctly.
>>
>>PROBLEM 1: INSTALLATION IS TOO DIFFICULT
>>SOLUTION: THE DEVELOPER SHOULD WRITE AN INSTALLATION SCRIPT, OR
>>SOLICIT OTHERS TO WRITE AN INSTALLATION SCRIPT WHICH WILL CHECK FOR
>>DEPPENDENCIES AND DOWNLOAD THEM FROM PUBLIC DEPOSITORIES AS REQUIRED.
>>
>>2. As a linux user, I am generaly satisfied and impressed with the
>>stability of the linux operating system and it's associated open
>>source software. As a beta tester and developer, I understand that
>>there are occassional bugs in software which appear intermintently. A
>>problem I have noticed with dvdrip, is that there are bugs which cross
>>versions, (including transcode). These bugs include out of sync audio
>>(even with PSU score enabled and regardless of framerate or
>>container), missing frame grabs (which make it impossible to continue
>>ripping/re-encoding) and incomplete encodings (for some reason,
>>regardless of the settings, transcode just stops processing the movie,
>>cpu usage drops to zero and the progress bar just stops). I have
>>researched these issues and have found various fixes. These fixes
>>included upgrading or downgrading transcode and other relevant
>>software, recompling with an upgraded or downgraded compiler, trying a
>>different movie, blah blah blah. The only problem these solutions
>>solved was the problem with transcode halting while executing.
>>
>>PROBLEM 2: THE SOFTWARE IS NOT RELIABLE
>>SOLUTION: WORK ON A RELEASE CANADIT, PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR BUG
>>REPORTS, STOP BEING NAIVE, POSSIBLY INTEGRATE DVDRIP AND TRANSCODE
>>INTO ONE PROJECT.
>>
>>3. As a customer and business owner, I have reviewed the dvdrip
>>website. The faq, while acceptable, doesn't answer 5% of the
>>questions which I have read on your mailing list, and your web site
>>also doesn't provide a decent contact us page. I understand that your
>>organization, (if I can even call it that), is not making a profit and
>>therefore cannot afford or spend the time to have a contact us page,
>>the very least you could do is have a search engine so that others can
>>find answers to their questions about why your program doesn't work.
>>The search engine would be a great place for others to post bug fixes
>>and workarounds to errors in the software as well.
>>
>>PROBLEM 3: THE SUPPORT SYSTEM NOT ACCEPTABLE
>>SOLUTION: AT THE VERY LEAST, DOWNLOAD AND INSTALL A WEB FORUM SO
>>OTHERS CAN SEARCH FOR ANSWERS TO COMMON QUESTIONS, RATHER THAN RELY ON
>>YOUR FAQ.
>>
>>This is all I am going write for now, I have wasted enough time on
>>this. If you don't agree flame away, if You do agree I appreciate it,
>>regardless. this software needs work. Fix the damn bugs!!!!!! I have
>>spent well over 400 hours trying to get it to work. I have a list of
>>at least 7 movies which will not get sync'd audio, all ntsc.
>>Whatever.
>
>
ummm on FC4 what could be easier than running:
sudo yum install perl-Video-DVDRip
I use the livna packages - they _always_ work.

that takes just under 30s to install
no issues here - keep up the excellent work Jorn
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