Re: [dvd::rip] RE: Benjamin's Quality Issues

I highly recommend reading this for all  unix/linux newbies:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_philosophy

This explains why transcode and DVD::rip should NOT be integrated in one
project.

-- Ryan


* Benjamin Lewis <agtlewis@xxxxxxxxx> wrote on [11-21-05y 01:40]:
> I owe Jörn a serious apology. Some of the statements I made in my "Quality
> Issues" post were way out of line. I guess my main intention was to direct
> some attention at some of the problems inexperienced Linux users face when
> trying to install and use dvd::rip. Yes, I did go overboard, and I do regret
> that. The fact that a poll was run about this shows me that the developer
> really does care, which is a great thing.
> 
> dvd::rip is a shining star in the Linux community. That is why I am upset
> about this whole issue.
> 
> Here is the deal. If one were to analyze what the general public wants to
> accomplish on their pc, there are a few things that stand out. Some examples
> include;
> 
> 1.Surfing the Internet
> 2.Managing Finances
> 3.Listening to Music
> 4.Downloading Music and Movies
> 5.Watching Movies
> 6.Downloading Movies
> 7.Web Design
> 8.Copying Movies
> 
> My whole point, in saying all this, and I must apologize for not being
> specific and not backing up everything I say, but my whole point, the reason
> I started all this, is because...
> 
> Jörn, your program, what you have written so far, is a key to success for
> Linux to beat Microsoft. Think about it. If I could do everything I wanted
> to do in Windows or Linux, but in Windows I could easily do something very
> important to me, like re-encode movies, but I couldn't do it in Linux, then
> I would not switch to Linux. It's that simple. I read the preliminary
> results from your installation poll, but those responses are not accurate
> because they are mainly from experienced Linux users, inexperienced users
> either have a friend help them, they give up, or they are not on your
> mailing list.
> 
> I guess what I am trying to get across is this. You make this thing so easy
> to install that all one has to do is run a chmod a+x command, and then a
> ./dvd-rip-install.run command, and you have just accomplished more than you
> could possibly imagine. Not only for yourself, but for the entire linux
> community, even those who will never use your program.
> 
> Don't say it's not possible, and don't say that transcode and dvd::rip can't
> be integrated. They are both open source and you can do whatever you want.
> Hell the transcode developers could do it if they wanted to. Of course
> ya'all could still keep separate versions as well.
> 
> I just hope you understand the magnitude of this program that you have
> written and I seriously hope that you have the foresight and ambition to
> take it to the next level.
> 
> Sorry for all the trouble.
> 
> Benjamin

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