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[dvd::rip] I'm tryin' to understand Video (re)size in dvd::rip

Subject: [dvd::rip] I'm tryin' to understand Video (re)size in dvd::rip
From: "Rick Nekus" <solarux@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2007 17:30:29 +0000
Hi All,
I'm fairly new to dvdrip, and am NO video engineer, but I'm quite pleased with the quality of dvdrip,
its now my one-stop backup tool for my home/personal dvd/video collections.


In the past, on FreeBSD I used to use a handy little script:

dvdauthor -t -o /home/rick/movies -f 'streamdvd -i /dev/dvd -t 1 -s 0xe0,0x80 |'
dvdauthor -T -o /home/rick/movies
growisofs -Z /dev/cd0 -dvd-video /home/rick/movies


this would make a complete "raw" backup; not the most versatile, and now 8.5+Gig dvd blanks are rather expensive :)

I wanted to use dvd::rip to make a s flawless a backup as possible ( compressed on DVD-5 disks are fine) but when using transcode I noticed after 2nd pass completetion, the dvd-rip-info file showed 640x272 -sixe/resolution ?
-being from the 'ole school, the higher the resolution the better right?.


Example:

dvd::rip info (before transcoding, ...):
...
NTSC
23.976 fps
256614 frames
16:9
720x480                    <-----------------------
...

dvd::rip info (after transcoding, ...)
...
Data source:           DVD
[Video]
Video format:          NTSC
FPS:                   29.97
Size:                  640 x 272   <----------------
Video bitrate (kbps):  3683
Video codec:           xvid4
2-pass-encoded:        yes
Fast resizing:         yes
Deinterlacer filter:
Antialiasing filter:   No antialiasing
[Audio 1]
DVD audio track id:    0
Language:              en
Audio codec:           vorbis
Channels:              2
Sample rate:           48000
Audio bitrate (kbps):  128
Volume rescaling:      1.000
Audio filter:          None, volume rescale only
[Programs]
dvd::rip version:      0.98.2
transcode version:     1.0.2
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I normally leave all the "defaults" -its seems to work best. however in this case,
I wanted as high a BPP as possible, so I set the target size to just over 4Gigs, and set fps
from 23.976 (original) -> 29.92 thinkin this would also increase quality ?
In 2 cases for AVI, and OGM (ogg/vorbis) they both didn't get any larger than 2.9Gig , ogg file format was substantially smaller, but the quality was really good in both, with
ogg having a much deeper and richer sound quality than the avi. -personal experience.


1./Does transcode retain the 720x480 sixe/resolution after the 1st clipping?
Meaning, is this all up to my (PC)Video Player software afterwards to sort out, by simply changing the aspect ratio, ... in my player. ?


2./ am I reading the 640x272 correct as the final quality of the resolution after the 2nd pass completion?

3./ Can I ?, or should I try to force the size to 740x480 to retain original rez.?

4./ is this all due to my lack of experience using dvd::rip/transcode ?
-u dont have to answer this
:)

-Summarily, I'm not interested how big the final file needs to be (upto 4.5G), I just want as flawless a (dvd)backup as possible.

I know that "DVD supports video resolutions of up to 720x480 pixels @ 29.97 fps for NTSC and 720x576 pixels @ 25 fps for PAL.... even higher with HD,..."
I've also read that:
"... increasing the source video resolution increases that amount of information in the input,
therefore the video quality will suffer more as a result, unless you higher the encoding bit-rate (if possible.)"
-Is this latter statement reflect the "trancode" limitations of preventing any higher quality. ?



anyway, I'm sorry for the askin too many questions, any insight would be appreciated.


thankyou,

Rick.
solarux@xxxxxxxxxxx

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